Link to a thread re: creepy element @ Baker

topic posted Mon, June 27, 2005 - 4:31 PM by  MT™
This thread made me realize a need for dialogue focused among the community who frequent the beach, and how to make it a more enjoyable place to sunbathe...
sanfrancisco.tribe.net/thread...adc026f
What do you think?
How would you handle someone being outright creepy near you while naked? Would you say something? Would you let it ruin your experience enough to get dressed and leave, vowing never to return?

I personally find laughter to be a good tool for breaking weird vibes,
especially when in direct reaction to the person fondling themselves... What do you do?
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MT™
SF Bay Area
  • Hi, I just joined and read through the three threads regarding this subject.

    I get out to the coast only about four or five times a year. Most of the time I go to a beach on the American River outside of Auburn, or sometimes up on the Yuba near Nevada City.

    There is rarely a problem at the Yuba, but on the American we have had ongoing issues. Since the beach space is rather small (particularly this year) getting up and moving is not an option. So we use a combination of direct approach and simple ridicule to deal with the gawkers and wankers.

    Sadly, our culture regards nudity as somewhat odd behavior; for women it is particularly tough because of the preditory nature of some guys. The more accessible the beach, the more likely you're gonna have gawkers.

    When I am on the coast and I happen to see someone being really obnoxious, I will hoist myself from my chair and use all 6' 4" 190LB to intimidate the idiot. I don't like to, but if I'm not enjoying some schmendrek pounding it three feet some some poor woman I'm guessing she's ready to do worse damage.

    I like the notion of finding regulars; since I'm not a weekly visitor, and a bit shy by nature, I find it hard to just join up with a large group that has known each other for a long time. But for those of you who live in the S.F. area, that certainly is a sensible idea.

    This thread does bring up an interesting question: how do you introduce yourself to others without raising warning signals. I will often see people at Baker's who I find interesting (it could be the music they have on, or some really good ink), but I rarely will engage in conversation because of the geek factor.

    Ideas?
    • [This thread does bring up an interesting question: how do you introduce yourself to others without raising warning signals.]

      IMO, you have to be extra sensitive to the nonverbal signals: eye contact, attention given to some other activity (sleeping, reading, headphones on, deep conversation).

      On the other hand, people splashing in ocean, playing with a dog, playing volleyball, making light chit-chat with their neighbor, etc. will probably be more welcoming.

      But, from what I have observed, women generally don't like to approached by men at a nude beach. The unwanted attention when one or both are nude tends to make women feel particularly vulnerable and uncomfortable.
      • Yes, eye contact is super important. If someone is not maintaining eyecontact, and their eyes are elsewhere on my body, I will feel uncomfortable.

        I happen to get alot of guys coming up to chat w/ me when they see me there w/ my other half. They want to chat about what advice I can give them on helping aid their female S.O. in getting comfortable enough to come. They are super respectful, and do not make me feel weird.

        I do have problems w/ creeps, too, but a good evil eye often does the trick for me.
    • Re: Link to a thread re: creepy element @ Baker

      Sat, December 10, 2005 - 3:33 PM
      Lots of topics

      Creeps, I just walk away from them, just because you are a man does not mean you are not suceptible to creeps LOL.

      Shyness in a nude beach well it happens, if you want to talk to someone just say hello, nothing wring with hello. Maybe they have a tattoo you find intriguing or a piercing or plain hello. Let mother nature takes it's course.

      When I started to go to a nude beach , I was soembarassed and self conscious until I so a very voluptuous woman naked, beleive me she had no shame, no embarassement in enjoying her day out in the beach. I said to myself, if she can find it within herself to have a good time, so can I.

      As a man sometimes it is embarassing as you can get aroused LOL, but that's also normal. Have a gereat beach day, maybe bring a friend, that always helps.
  • Re: Link to a thread re: creepy element @ Baker

    Fri, October 28, 2005 - 1:14 AM
    We had a rather odd situation about a year ago. We were around the rocks enjoying the view on a very rare warm saturday evening, so still lots of people out, we were nude, and were approached by a guy, nude, who at first said we were "Hot" we said thank you. he then asked if he could watch us fuck!!! We said no, trying to be polite, explaining a bit about Naturism, and that this is not a 'Hook-up' Spot etc...
    He sat right by us, smiling, and just bugging us with his presence, we had to leave with him following us all the way to the car, and finnaly asking us to fuck for him again, before we drove off.
    RUINED a nice day.

    We have had other situations with fully dressed Gawkers, some even with camera's sitting 2 feet from us when the beach is practically empty, just people staring etc...

    We ahve had great times at Baker, and a few nightmares.
  • Re: Link to a thread re: creepy element @ Baker

    Thu, December 1, 2005 - 4:32 AM
    I find it depends on the situation. Sometimes I am sharp and salty, and then there was one instance, where the guy seemed sweet and harmless, not really schooled, and just couldn't help but keep staring over at us...happy folk sitting around a guitar, singing and laughing, besides, my boobs are amazing...so he kept making eye contact and smiling, and i decided to go over and plop down and feel him out in a discreet way, before Jan noticed and got all protective...turns out he was special ed school teacher who just moved up from San Diego, etc. I gave him a few tips on being lowkey at a nude beach.nn

    But it definitely is a topic that needs to be discussed and handled, as I often find myself hesitant to go out to Baker Beach if I am by myself (and I am the kind of girl who "goes it alone" often) or don't think Jan and crew are there.

    So here are a few tips I have picked up or felt out over the years (feel free to use this to inspire your arsenal...i mean think about it: women carry pepper spray in the subway, you are naked on a beach!):

    1) the light of god!: carry a mirror with you and anyone who is giving you too much unwanted attention with stares, just use the sun and mirror to shine a blinding light in their eyes...they'll get it

    2)if at all possible, bring a guy along...it helps. even a gay friend would do. make buddies here. beaches are good places to have backup, and its fun to sun with more than one, besides if you wanted a quiet day of you, your nakedness and the ocean, you probably would have gone somewhere south, off the 1.

    3)the blocker: oversized beach umbrellas are good for shade or using as a block between you and any unwanted attention. just open and aim!

    4)as a female who goes to Baker alone, over time I have learned that you don't have to be nice if you don't want to be. guys will approach you (it's a beach in the middle of a sexy city...off a couple buslines, as in easy access, and we got our share of wierdos), so just put on your game face, be witty as oppose to shitty(if possible)

    5)if you don't want to be bothered, have things to do with you, read a magazine, sunbathe with your eyes closed, etc. and I know this sounds kinda crappy considering you should be able to do what you want when you are having a nice day, nude at a beach, but if you are sitting alone and gazing around periodically(so you look too? huh?) then unfortunately, you look approachable

    and i must say, i have met some cool people at nude beaches, but they measure up to the standards i have for cool people with their clothes on too: humor, intellect and soul on fire!

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